Comments on: Copy Data to your Home Server the Correct Way http://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/ Tue, 22 May 2012 02:23:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jonhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7759 Jon Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:04:37 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7759 How do we handle situations where we make Virtual Directories for FTP or if a user ftps in and uploads a file to the VD.VD's can only be made via local drives (ie: d:\shares\photos)Does this mean that FTP service should not be run and another question I have is with "uploading" via a website that HP created or WebGuide (which is now Microsoft Software) cannot access these directly either?I mean what a HUGGGGGE let down this is.Basically what this is telling me is that RDP should never be allowed and that we should only access this server via My Network Places and never form the outside world UNLESS it is read only.Come on now.. what kind of OS is that crap? How do we handle situations where we make Virtual Directories for FTP or if a user ftps in and uploads a file to the VD.

VD’s can only be made via local drives (ie: d:\shares\photos)

Does this mean that FTP service should not be run and another question I have is with “uploading” via a website that HP created or WebGuide (which is now Microsoft Software) cannot access these directly either?

I mean what a HUGGGGGE let down this is.

Basically what this is telling me is that RDP should never be allowed and that we should only access this server via My Network Places and never form the outside world UNLESS it is read only.

Come on now.. what kind of OS is that crap?

]]> By: Philip Churchillhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7758 Philip Churchill Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:34:49 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7758 Hi Bonavox, Using eg D:\shares\Software would be NO good because that location only includes the 4KB tombstome files only. (right click on a file, then Properties and look at the Size on disk) That's why it's important to use UNC paths. For Picasa and other software that requires it, couldn’t you mount the share to a drive letter? Hi Bonavox,
Using eg D:\shares\Software would be NO good because that location only includes the 4KB tombstome files only. (right click on a file, then Properties and look at the Size on disk) That’s why it’s important to use UNC paths. For Picasa and other software that requires it, couldn’t you mount the share to a drive letter?

]]> By: Bonavoxhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7757 Bonavox Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:08:29 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7757 Could you please explain more on this? For me, using UNC paths is not good enough. For example, Picasa do not accept UNC paths. I also use lot of time editing and moving both media and photos, doing this between shares is time consuming and a very unfamiliar way to work.I really do hope this is going to be fixed? Could you please explain more on this? For me, using UNC paths is not good enough. For example, Picasa do not accept UNC paths. I also use lot of time editing and moving both media and photos, doing this between shares is time consuming and a very unfamiliar way to work.

I really do hope this is going to be fixed?

]]> By: Philip Churchillhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7756 Philip Churchill Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:33:16 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7756 Hi danb, Since you copied directly to the D:\shares\Sharename folders, you were operating outside of WHS. The risk you run is that you may create real files in the shares, rather than tombstones. In this case Drive Extender won't be able to move those files off of the primary data partition.All files that are located within D:\shares\Sharename should be 4KB tombstones only, no matter how big the real file is. The actual files are located on other drives that WHS accesses through mount points that are in C:\DE\ (in a single drive system the files are stored directly on the D drive).To make sure that the files in D:\shares\Sharename are tombstones only, right click on a file, then Properties and look at the Size on disk. If the Size on disk value is more than 4KB then the DE Migrator is not coming along and migrating the actual file to the other drives, and is not creating the tombstone.So the only way I can see that you can rectify this is to take the incorrect data out of the shares from D:\shares\Sharename into a temp directory and then move it through to the actual share the proper way.I hope this explains it for you. Hi danb,
Since you copied directly to the D:\shares\Sharename folders, you were operating outside of WHS. The risk you run is that you may create real files in the shares, rather than tombstones. In this case Drive Extender won’t be able to move those files off of the primary data partition.

All files that are located within D:\shares\Sharename should be 4KB tombstones only, no matter how big the real file is. The actual files are located on other drives that WHS accesses through mount points that are in C:\DE\ (in a single drive system the files are stored directly on the D drive).

To make sure that the files in D:\shares\Sharename are tombstones only, right click on a file, then Properties and look at the Size on disk. If the Size on disk value is more than 4KB then the DE Migrator is not coming along and migrating the actual file to the other drives, and is not creating the tombstone.

So the only way I can see that you can rectify this is to take the incorrect data out of the shares from D:\shares\Sharename into a temp directory and then move it through to the actual share the proper way.

I hope this explains it for you.

]]> By: danbhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7755 danb Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:39:35 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7755 When bringing data over on a separate HDD, I plugged it into the WHS machine, and then used RD to copy direct from the drive to the d:/ shares appropriate for the content. The content was movies and music I think, but there might have been some pictures too. When bringing data over on a separate HDD, I plugged it into the WHS machine, and then used RD to copy direct from the drive to the d:/ shares appropriate for the content. The content was movies and music I think, but there might have been some pictures too.

]]> By: Philip Churchillhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7754 Philip Churchill Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:53:08 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7754 Hi danb, D:\shares\ is NOT ok D:\any other name\ is OK If you did copy to D:\shares\ what actual data did you copy and how much? Hi danb,
D:\shares\ is NOT ok
D:\any other name\ is OK
If you did copy to D:\shares\ what actual data did you copy and how much?

]]> By: Philip Churchillhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7753 Philip Churchill Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:37:02 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7753 Hi Andrew Calvin, Thanks for your comment. Hi Andrew Calvin,
Thanks for your comment.

]]> By: danbhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7752 danb Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:19:15 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7752 If you've already copied to d:\ how can you be sure you haven't caused a problem, or if you have, fix it? If you’ve already copied to d:\ how can you be sure you haven’t caused a problem, or if you have, fix it?

]]> By: Andrew Calvinhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7751 Andrew Calvin Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:14:41 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7751 I think Chris's post is really about the SDK anyway - all consumer-oriented info is clear that you should always just use UNC. I think Chris’s post is really about the SDK anyway – all consumer-oriented info is clear that you should always just use UNC.

]]> By: Philip Churchillhttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7750 Philip Churchill Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:50:25 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7750 Hi yakuza, Thanks for your post. Yes Chris Gray's post is contradictory to all the other info Microsoft has published which states you must only use net share paths. Hi yakuza,
Thanks for your post. Yes Chris Gray’s post is contradictory to all the other info Microsoft has published which states you must only use net share paths.

]]> By: yakuzahttp://www.mswhs.com/2007/10/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7749 yakuza Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:27:28 +0000 http://mswhs.com/2007/10/16/copy-data-to-your-home-server-the-correct-way/#comment-7749 Hi, can I ask for the original source of this info, was it a post on the WHS forums? I ask, because I've seen contradictory info from Chris Gray of the WHS team: http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1684409&SiteID=50 Hi, can I ask for the original source of this info, was it a post on the WHS forums? I ask, because I’ve seen contradictory info from Chris Gray of the WHS team:
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1684409&SiteID=50

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