Please read my last post about PC back ups, PP1 & PP2 and non-pooled hard drive on WHS. I’ll leave the homework to you guys on that topic. But once you put the back up files on that extra drive, you should…should be able to FTP them off site….

Did a quicky look at Fling. If it does an autobackup then great. Just set it to back up the same folders I listed in my tutorial.
THanks.

Glad my tutorial helped you with backups.
I feel that BH, like other ISP’s, don’t want to promote mass backups because of bandwidth usage, growing storage usage and ultimately liability from loss of data should their servers crash. It only makes sense from a business point. But hey, If I back up to an alternate HD it too could die. But then you ave multiple copies, so no biggie.

As far as backing up the PC backups, I thought PP1 or PP2 on WHS enabled those files to be pulled out and stored on a seperate…non-pooled HD on WHS. I’ve personally not do this or even looked into the details. But once you install a non-pooled HD and move copies of your PC back ups there…sure,.. you could have Handy FTP them to your web host.

Thanks for the tips it is working like a charm for me!! I would like to know if there is a way to upload my backups from the server and not just the files from shared folders?

Matt

My comments are offense, not defense. With that being said, anyone is free to go out of their way to find any discrediting data they wish and speak their mind here. It is usually a mechanism to create doubt amongst consumers… i.e. Defense. Though it is the common theme with all things M$ or that circumvent the need or use of a commercially available products.

Disclaimer i.e Fine Print:
For the record, Blue Host now states in their TOS that official “Backup” services are not supported. Of course, any file is subject to “Backup” interpretation . If any reader has concerns about backing up files on their hosted web server, then please follow Guido Nordhau’s advice and first check with your web host’s TOS or pay for one of the “Official” backup companies listed in the article.

Thank you for reading and using the tutorial.

Then again: It’s your data, your files. And if you feel comfy having a offsite backup that is bound to have issues even before you upload your first file, go ahead, that is your choice. Note: By issues I do not mean that you will _definetly_ loose those files. You may even keep all of them and never have any issue at all. But can you really trust in your backup? No? So whats the point of an offsite backup, then?

Finally: If you advocate such a solution here AND offer readers the ability to post comments, why act all defensive if somebody has a comment to make?

Well, I’ve not seen that in the TOS bit myself. But, who is to say what files are used for what purpose on any web site? Are they “back up” files or are they…a….files? I had many files on my server with a download page and I expressly spoke with Blue Host about those files and they had no issues. Besides, once uploaded, they don’t get rewritten unless changed.

Sorry, but your comment seems more like a disgruntled competitor commenting on the “Cheap” services of BH just like the anti-whs and handy comments. Did you go to their Live Chat just to dig that bit up and post it here? C’mon, really. I’m not commenting again on this point.

Thanks again.

Glad you liked my article, even though my comment is some moths old. If you stop by again, your suggestion sounds great! Please give details on how to do this as I’m sure many would like to know.
Of course, with PP1 and the additional backup options it provides, you could use Handy Backup to FTP those client backups too.
Yes, the service portion is now included with HBackup, so the part instructing on the service is not really needed anymore.
Thanks

Well, there are several pay back up sites and plug ins available for WHS. The solution I wrote about above is but one way to get there. Is it the best? I feel it’s most secure and controlled…by me. I have the remote web server and the extra disk space there to make redundant backups of my WHS. Plus, it’s a super cheap host! C’mon, unlimited disk space and bandwidth! Wow. Even if you use it only for your backups, $7.00 a month is cheap!

If you don’t have a web host you already rent or don’t have the tech know how on setting this all up, then one of the paid backup systems I mentioned at the beginning of the article will do just fine. Again, which one is best? Well, it will be a mix between cost and file sizes you need backed up.

Make sure you have duplication turned on in WHS for your important stuff. Then if you feel you want an “off site” back up to protect you from fire or theft….then use my idea above or one of the paid backup systems. Any of them are an excellent option based upon your needs and abilities.

Hope that helps.

Thanks in advance. And I love your site!
Stephen

It seems I should be able to put together a script or batch file using the Actions tab that would turn off the whsbackup service, then backup the client database on WHS to bluehost, and then turn the whsbackup service back on. Thus, the client database is backed up in the event of a catastrophe. Of course, file sizes and upload times may not be acceptable depending on bandwidth available. Has anyone tried this already?

Also by way of an update, Handy Backup is now up to version 6.1.0 and the run as windows service is included at no charge.

Unlike other loosers out there, I read your post, tried it and think it is the best thing going when it comes to free backup solutions. Thanks a bunch for your post, it was awsome and worked 100 %

Just for the heck of it, I did the same with Mozy, and the lastest version installed fine. Perhaps they’ve relaxed the restriction on installing on WHS?

The .com has a US distributor in Autstin,Texas and the .net has a US distributor in Alliance, Ohio.
The .com email and web address is novosoft.us
The .net email and web address is novosoft-usa.com

Open the addresses in tabs and compare. I just followed links from the contacts section on both web sites.
Novosoft Inc. (.com) http://novosoft.us/other/contact_us.shtml#1

Novosoft LLC (.net) http://www.novosoft-usa.com/other/contact_us.shtml

Cnet lists the LLC (.net) as the official download company. http://www.download.com/Novosoft/3260-20_4-6201534.html?tag=tdw_publink
Tucows.com lists the LLC (.net) as the official download company too.
http://tucows.com/preview/505372

See for yourselves… But this is probably two different divisions within the same company competing with each other through both of their US distributors…LOL. Games…

First, let me say that the purpose of this article is to offer “Options” for readers and users of WHS. I even gave links and credit to some of the other “options” available to the public. As with all customers, no one solution is best for everyone’s specific needs, skills or technical abilities. Hence, the publishing of this article as one of those “options.”

Response:
Dave Friend-Carbonite
Carbonite is a good product. I test drove it last year. It’s everything you said it is. But, so too is the solution I offer here in this article. Set it and forget it. It is an “option” for those of us who do know how to use FTP and have a web server already. And my data is in a secure, visible location on my own server. Which was clearly stated at the beginning of the article. If a reader’s technical prowess is not up to the task presented here…then one of the other options listed is there for the taking.

Response:
Kyle- Handybackup.net vs. Handybackup.com
I’m not going to get in the middle of debating the “appearance” of these two companies conducting in trademark infringement. Handybackup.net is listed on Tucows.com as the only product with that name brand. I’ve used it now for two years and it works fine. The . net firm does originate from Russia. I’ve found no “infringement” claims made by either company on their web sites. If Kyle’s claim concerns you, then don’t buy it or use it. I do competitive analysis for my company, so I’ll do a little homework and see what I can find out and post later.

Response:
Zoogmo-Zoogmo
Boy, another advertisement….LOL. Not a bad concept either. But do you really want to backup your data to your mom’s computer? Hmmm, not so sure I want my files spread all over my friends and family’s pc’. Privacy and possible virus spreading would be my concern, but not a bad “optional” idea.

Bottom line here…. This article is to provide those with the knowhow and the means to create a third, redundant and remote backup of your files in case of fire or theft. As stated, there are many options out there, but not all are for everyone. Look through the information and mis-information and decide for yourself. Most important, make an offsite backup today!

Zoogmo makes backup cool by using existing internet connections, available space on computers & your great relationships with your friends to automatically and securely back up your files to a place you trust. YOU control where your files are backed up by building your personal network of your own or your trusted friends’ computers or USB drives.

Shouldn’t you decide where your precious data will be backed up?

Because Zoogmo can make redundant backups of your files to multiple locations, you get a more secure backup and also a faster BitTorrent-like restore. Zoogmo partners decide how much space to allocate to each other on their computers and then Zoogmo runs in the background, automatically backing up changes on your computer incrementally. All backups are encrypted before they leave your computer so only you know what you are backing up and absolutely no one can read your files.

If you backup between your own computers at home, backup and restore happen at LAN speed which is 30-50 times faster than the internet.

Zoogmo turns spare disc space into a backup community – backup meets social networking. There’s even a cool Facebook application that you can use to tell your network of friends that you are looking for backup space.

Download now at http://www.zoogmo.com to begin turning your social network into your backup network.

Enjoy!
Dov Sugarman
CEO
Zoogmo – Your Online Backup Community
http://www.zoogmo.com

http://kb2tfa.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/handybackupcom-vs-handybackupnet/

Might want to find a more reputable solution.